Tube Rolling w/Crack

Anyone uses Brimar 12AU7 or Brimar CV4003 or maybe a Brimar 13D5 (supposed to be direct replacement for 12au7) with their Crack? Wondering how they sound, because they are better priced than a Mullard 12AU7/CV4003.
 
I have one 13D5 and when I came back from work today I found two NOS 13D4s was waiting ,listening to 13D4 as I type,..long story short 13D4 supposed to be predecessor of 13D5
Appears that 13D4 preceded 13D5. These have the old style STC logos with BVA stamp. Etched tube type 1571 - one of the 12AU7 codes that was also used for Brimar ECC82
types like CV4003, 12AU7, CV4034 etc. From what we know, Brimar made 3 industrial ECC82 types, 13D4, 13D5 and later 13D8.

13D5 sounds really good ..solid soundstage ,airy and sweet mids,clear top
This tubes are really interesting since micas are see-through ,the samples I received are super quite ,you won't hear a thing by tapping on the tube
http://www.ebay.com/itm/160808127350?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
 

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Which one is a better deal for the money?

1. http://www.ebay.nl/itm/Vintage-JHY-CBS-5814-A-D-Getter-Black-Plate-Stereo-Tube-1959-V-Strong-Bal-341-/400679067882?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item5d4a5560ea&_uhb=1

2. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-new-Tube-Brimar-UK-made-ECC82-12AU7-402067-/380857748925?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item58ace40dbd
 
Does anyone know where can I get the Bendix 6080wb tube? Seems to be pretty rare nowadays, I was always curious to how it'll sound with some Mullards ECC82
 
@klots
this will probably be your best bet for the money
http://www.ebay.nl/itm/THE-ULTIMATE-NOS-Tesla-ECC802S-12au7-ECC82-tube-Ships-from-US-/171253161671?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item27df7bdec7&_uhb=1

ashneel said:
Does anyone know where can I get the Bendix 6080wb tube? Seems to be pretty rare nowadays, I was always curious to how it'll sound with some Mullards ECC82

Bendix were easy to get few years ago but as of late you might end up waiting for months to find one on ebay and most likely you will have to pay around $150 here in US to get one (I recently purchased one ) ,this tube don't like Crack much ,I have try all types of driver tube to pair it with on Crack and it still doesn't sound right ,this is night and day when running on my DV366SE (just epic)
 
@xcoolhandx

I should try it out then  :) If that tube gives me nice soundstage, great mids and is musical and not trebleheavy, then I should be happy.

How does that compare to Tesla http://www.ebay.com/itm/E82CC-ECC802s-Siemens-100-electrical-new-4837-/221213056403?pt=DE_TV_Video_Audio_Elektronenr%C3%B6hren_Valves&hash=item3381535d93 ?


And there is that JJ ecc802S which also gets great reviews. It is not easy to choose as I thought it would be  :D

 
Klots said:
Which one is a better deal for the money?

1. http://www.ebay.nl/itm/Vintage-JHY-CBS-5814-A-D-Getter-Black-Plate-Stereo-Tube-1959-V-Strong-Bal-341-/400679067882?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item5d4a5560ea&_uhb=1

2. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-new-Tube-Brimar-UK-made-ECC82-12AU7-402067-/380857748925?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item58ace40dbd

The CBS Hytron 5814 is a glorious tube.  Very detailed and transparent, yet it has a nice warmth.  The bass has a lot of drive (slam).

This is my input tube of choice to pair with the TS 5998.  I was using an Amperex 7316 before, and I slightly prefer the CBS Hytron 5814 because it has better dynamics in the bass.
 
serpent68 said:
Klots said:
Which one is a better deal for the money?

1. http://www.ebay.nl/itm/Vintage-JHY-CBS-5814-A-D-Getter-Black-Plate-Stereo-Tube-1959-V-Strong-Bal-341-/400679067882?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item5d4a5560ea&_uhb=1

2. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-new-Tube-Brimar-UK-made-ECC82-12AU7-402067-/380857748925?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item58ace40dbd

The CBS Hytron 5814 is a glorious tube.  Very detailed and transparent, yet it has a nice warmth.  The bass has a lot of drive (slam).

This is my input tube of choice to pair with the TS 5998.  I was using an Amperex 7316 before, and I slightly prefer the CBS Hytron 5814 because it has better dynamics in the bass.

I have the rca 6080wa and ge 6as7ga output tubes. I dont know about the pairing between rca/ge and 5814a, but I have read many positive comments about 5814a. Because I use HD700 headphones I do not want a drive tube with lots of treble. Drive tube witch is detailed and musical with nice mids and not sluggish bass would be perfect.
 
I have this Siemens
http://www.partsconnexion.com/NOS-76087.html
and the JJ ecc802s
both are very nice, different from each other, but either of these two are my faves in my system.
 
Iv recently tried genalex gold lion ecc82(new reproduction) with a tung sol 5998 best combo iv so far :D Very detailed neutral sound very happy with the combo
 
tyj said:
Iv recently tried genalex gold lion ecc82(new reproduction) with a tung sol 5998 best combo iv so far :D Very detailed neutral sound very happy with the combo

Which cans are you using them with?
 
xcoolhandx said:
@klots
this will probably be your best bet for the money
http://www.ebay.nl/itm/THE-ULTIMATE-NOS-Tesla-ECC802S-12au7-ECC82-tube-Ships-from-US-/171253161671?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item27df7bdec7&_uhb=1

ashneel said:
Does anyone know where can I get the Bendix 6080wb tube? Seems to be pretty rare nowadays, I was always curious to how it'll sound with some Mullards ECC82

Bendix were easy to get few years ago but as of late you might end up waiting for months to find one on ebay and most likely you will have to pay around $150 here in US to get one (I recently purchased one ) ,this tube don't like Crack much ,I have try all types of driver tube to pair it with on Crack and it still doesn't sound right ,this is night and day when running on my DV366SE (just epic)

I got those Bendix for $80 from Turkey..Its not a Bargain, but I'm going to try these with my HD650. If it's not to my taste, I can always sell it
 
My postman dropped off a little brown package this morning inside a Tung-sol/Bendix 6080wb  :) I had been curious to try a graphite tube for a while now.

Based only on couple of hours so far its almost like a cross between a 5998 and the Mullard 6080wa. It has a big, bold, fast sound which is punchy and dynamic.

Its darker weightier and more tubey sounding than a 5998 while keeping some of its refinement but not quiet with the same levels of resolution and finesse as the 5998. There is more slam and punch to the bass!

Sound stage reminds me of the Mullard its got that detached holographic surreal-ness to it with lots of air and separation. Its certainly stands out as being different to the tubes I have tried so far.

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Jamie, your observations on the Bendix 6080WB are similar to mine.  I'm constantly torn between the 6080WB and the 5998... for certain music such as rock and electronic music, the 6080WB is clearly superior with its more dynamic sound and punchy bass.  With Jazz and vocals, the 5998 trumps it convincingly.

My favourite 2 combinations (using a Beyer T90):
1. TS 5998 + CBS Hytron 5814A for jazz, vocals, acoustic music
2. Bendix 6080WB + Philips E80CC for rock, electronic music.

I am curious to try the Genalex 6AS7G, but the price is prohibitive.  How would you describe the Genalex relative to the TS5998 and the Bendix 6080WB?
 
^^^ try to pair it with 6SN7 guys
EDIT ;some power tubes prefer larger driver tubes ;
GEC A1834-6AS7G+ 6SN7=win
GEC A1834-6AS7G+12AU7=not that great
5998+6SN7 =not that great
Bendix red bank +6SN7 =win
Bendix+12AU7/E80CC=suck
TS 7236+12AU7=win

 

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