Tube Rolling w/Crack

NightFlight said:
Mike B said:
Oh, I don't care what anybody else spends, just me.

I figure if I spent more on accessories that I did on the original item, I would have been better off just buying something better in the first place.

Sorry, to dredge this up but I came across it as a result of a search.

I couldn't disagree more. I believe tweaking existing circuits can bring about sonic improvements that are not otherwise possible with design changes. You can have the best circuit design in the world, but if you use crappy parts, your going to muddy the water and you'll never realize the full potential. It's a cumulative effect. Alternately, one bad part in the signal path can impact the whole circuit.

Good design with good parts is the way to go.

I'd say the opposite. You can spend $1200 on tweaks to the Quickie, and it won't sound as good as a stock BeePre. You'd be amazed at how many Sterophile class A components use inexpensive parts.
 
Caucasian Blackplate said:
You'd be amazed at how many Sterophile class A components use inexpensive parts.

Which is why most of us are, likely, here.  Every product is built to a price point.  Many time parts are substituted that are not necessarily the best design spec, but are in inventory and cheaper because of the quantity purchased.  From a manufacturing/inventory control aspect, it is usually not good business to purchase and stock the "perfect" component for each use.  But, as a DIY'er, I probably can, to my budget and taste.  Big difference!

Cheers,
Geary
 
Yeah, on the other end, there are the guys who buy poorly designed single ended amps from overseas, then expect replacing some capacitors to take the performance of such an amplifier well beyond what it could ever be. 

Throwing money at boutique parts won't fix a design issue, but a different design will. 

 
Caucasian Blackplate said:
Yeah, on the other end, there are the guys who buy poorly designed single ended amps from overseas, then expect replacing some capacitors to take the performance of such an amplifier well beyond what it could ever be. 

Throwing money at boutique parts won't fix a design issue, but a different design will.

Totally agree.  A good design can be made to sound better, or perhaps more accurately, to one's taste, with some well chosen quality parts.  (Please note that $$$ cost or boutique labels are no guarantee of quality!)  Nothing helps a bad design other than starting over with a clean breadboard!

Cheers,
Geary
 
Caucasian Blackplate, any thoughts on the voltages you asked for?

http://www.bottlehead.com/smf/index.php/topic,663.msg53263.html#msg53263

Thanks

 
bdr529 said:
Caucasian Blackplate, any thoughts on the voltages you asked for?

http://www.bottlehead.com/smf/index.php/topic,663.msg53263.html#msg53263

Thanks

I don't see anything in there that would explain any buzzing.

-PB
 
Weird, I've been listening to the 5814/6808WA combo very happily for the last couple weeks. Now a couple drinks and relaxed evening - totally called for the RCA clear top. The 5814 sounded completely rolled off to me tonight, but it never has before. The detail in the top end of the RCA is just great.

Is it the Alcohol?  :o
 
NightFlight said:
Weird, I've been listening to the 5814/6808WA combo very happily for the last couple weeks. Now a couple drinks and relaxed evening - totally called for the RCA clear top. The 5814 sounded completely rolled off to me tonight, but it never has before. The detail in the top end of the RCA is just great.

Is it the Alcohol?  :o
Booze just makes everything look and sound better  ;D
The clear tops always sounded piercing to me...even with RCA 6AS7Gs + HD650
 
Hey guys,

I am looking to replace my output tube as it appears to be producing humming sound in the background. I am currently running it with Modi from Schiit and HD700. I am wondering what is a good tube. I am looking for something that is warm, more prompt bass and less treble? Thanks!
 
SNSDluv said:
Hey guys,

I am looking to replace my output tube as it appears to be producing humming sound in the background. I am currently running it with Modi from Schiit and HD700. I am wondering what is a good tube. I am looking for something that is warm, more prompt bass and less treble? Thanks!
Welcome to the forum!

A while back I bought a quantity of used 6080/6AS7 on E-Bay (untested and cheap). It helps to have a tester but isnt entirely necessary. I had to cull out a couple of duds but in general I wound up with a nice collection to roll through. I found that I always came back to a 6AS7G Chatham from the late 1940's. Good thing too because there were a couple of them in the lot I bought.

Sometimes you can pick up a mixed lot for about the same price as a single new or NOS tube. That way you can do some rolling of your own. You might just find one that is extra special in your system.

Aside from my experiences there are 45 pages of discussion in this thread. I'd recommend, if you haven't done so already, spending a little time reading through them. 

 
SNSDluv said:
Hey guys,

I am looking to replace my output tube as it appears to be producing humming sound in the background. I am currently running it with Modi from Schiit and HD700. I am wondering what is a good tube. I am looking for something that is warm, more prompt bass and less treble? Thanks!

Something like these perhaps a mix of 6as7g and 6080 keep any you like sell the rest

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lot-of-4-tubes-6AS7G-6AS7GA-6080WA-tested-/281240887187?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item417b435f93
 
Hi guys,

Just joining the forum as I have bought a crack with speedball. I am really liking this amp but I am a complete noob when it comes to tubes. I was able to find a Tung-Sol 5998 for the output tube and I have been wondering whether I could use a few spare 6CG7 or 6922 in the input socket that I have left from my speaker amp.

Thanks!
 
6922 and 6cg7 are not direct replacements of the 12au7 tube. I would not try them in the Crack.

The 5998 is an excellent tube, many people here rave about it.

Best wishes
 
Caucasian Blackplate said:
Yeah, on the other end, there are the guys who buy poorly designed single ended amps from overseas, then expect replacing some capacitors to take the performance of such an amplifier well beyond what it could ever be. 

Throwing money at boutique parts won't fix a design issue, but a different design will.

True. But that wasn't what I was saying. I'm saying that well designed circuits are frequently subject to oversight. Obviously, I'm not saying BH products are subject to this.  What I have had pointed out to me is a lot of 'high-end' designs with simple mistakes with component selection and implementation.  By implementation I don't necessarily mean the overall circuit, I just mean simple things - like placement.  When those oversights are fixed a old piece of equipment can gain new life it would have never previously expected.

But yea, boutique parts as a solution on its own? No. That isn't going to work.  Also, 'Boutique' parts become such because of recognition. At one point they were all just good selections with a par cost.  I think the internet as exacerbated this. It's a growing problem...

Anyhow.. back to tubes.... :)
 
Can anybody shed some light on a "A2599" tube it was in with some 12au7 that I had for rolling its 9 pin and the same general size/shape as 12au7. Might it work in the Crack with out causing any damage?

TIA Jamie
 
Hi guys,

I am pairing my Crack+Speedball with HD700 (with Schiit Modi), I am looking for a power tube that is warm, provides good bass, recessed treble, good sound stage and detailed. People have suggested me Bendix 6080, Tung-Sol 6080WA, and Western Electric 421A.. well, the first two I cannot find anywhere, and the last one is wayyy out of my budget. I am looking for something that is under, say, $50, that will do the job. Any idea will help, thanks! :D
 
Thanks Paul

SNSDluv said:
Hi guys,

I am pairing my Crack+Speedball with HD700 (with Schiit Modi), I am looking for a power tube that is warm, provides good bass, recessed treble, good sound stage and detailed. People have suggested me Bendix 6080, Tung-Sol 6080WA, and Western Electric 421A.. well, the first two I cannot find anywhere, and the last one is wayyy out of my budget. I am looking for something that is under, say, $50, that will do the job. Any idea will help, thanks! :D


Chatham 6AS7G sounds nice and should tick all your box's
Also 6AS7G from RCA or Sylvania the earlier 1950-60's ones.
The Mullard 6080 is also a nice sounding tube but harder to find.

It would also be worth considering the Tung-sol 5998 if you can stretch a little further these can be found nos from dealers for $75 and for $50-60 nos or as tested strong on ebay and would be are a great choice if you can stretch for the extra.


Good hunting
 
JamieMcC said:
Thanks Paul

SNSDluv said:
Hi guys,

I am pairing my Crack+Speedball with HD700 (with Schiit Modi), I am looking for a power tube that is warm, provides good bass, recessed treble, good sound stage and detailed. People have suggested me Bendix 6080, Tung-Sol 6080WA, and Western Electric 421A.. well, the first two I cannot find anywhere, and the last one is wayyy out of my budget. I am looking for something that is under, say, $50, that will do the job. Any idea will help, thanks! :D


Chatham 6AS7G sounds nice and should tick all your box's
Also 6AS7G from RCA or Sylvania the earlier 1950-60's ones.
The Mullard 6080 is also a nice sounding tube but harder to find.

It would also be worth considering the Tung-sol 5998 if you can stretch a little further these can be found nos from dealers for $75 and for $50-60 nos or as tested strong on ebay and would be are a great choice if you can stretch for the extra.


Good hunting

Mhm thanks for the response!
But I can't find the Tung-sol 5998 anywhere for that price... :(
 
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