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              Question for John S:

          How do you prototype these days?
         
    When we were doing it (a long time ago) it was Augat wire wrap boards with DIP spacing for mostly 74XX logic parts . You could debug fairly effectively with a hand held Logic Probe.

            Seems that there is a totally different methodology required with what's available today.
 
Wire wrap and approaches like that are long gone. The only decent way is to have custom boards made. There are some places that do this fairly inexpensively. For simple stuff you can do your own, but for the boards I do now, it's cheaper to send them out.

The fun part is soldering. I have a hot air station, microscope and some other tools which allow me to hand solder many SMD parts, but there are some that are very difficult to do that way. The main Bottlehead board is a board that is almost impossible to solder by hand, so the only way to do it is have a professional assembly shop do it. There are lots of these around, but none of them are cheap. There are some that specialize in prototype work and I use one of those. So I send off board files, XY files and BOM files, Doc sends them a big chunk of money and  a few weeks later we get finished boards.

I then test them out, find problems, and hack the boards up, cutting traces, adding tiny little wires etc, all dome under the microscope.  I get it working, then go through the process again to hack up one for Doc and send it to him. Thus all the boards he has had so far have a certain amount of red wires and cut traces. 

The ones in the fab right now have all the hacks from the last version incorporated into the board and hopefully will work out of the box.

John S.
 
     
      Thanks John,
   
    I thought that was probably the case.
    I guess the wire wrap gun goes to the re-cycler. :)
 
Doc, I'd be interested in hearing your impression's on how the DAC sounds through the Orca speakers if you've had a chance to listen through them.  My pair are just starting to really hit their stride and I'm looking to see if a new DAC will improve their sound. 
 
I have had the new DAC in the big system so far, so I haven't heard it with the Orcas. But I have a previous DAC prototype running in our home theater and after hooking it up I just couldn't go back to the analog output of the bluray player. So I can't say if you will like the new DAC, but I am confident that you could hear a difference compared to other sources.
 
I really can't wait to see a BH DAC. I'm not sure how I'll be able to swing the price, but it's really exciting. Subscribed!
 
mcandmar said:
Caucasian Blackplate said:
We are awaiting some boards that are in production.

Bump for a progress report :)

We are still waiting for the (hopefully) final prototype boards from the board  house. I haven't heard anything  about them for a while. I have  a suspicion it is  the oscillator, they have to be programmed for the  specific frequency, that might be taking longer  than anticipated. If so, all we can do is wait. I'll ping them tonight and see what is going on.

I have the adapter boards, they came in right on schedule.

John S.
 
Enclosure size is still a moving target until we determine the battery we want to use.The battery we have been using lasts about 4.5 hours. Unfortunately the last Seattle Head Fi meet was 5 hours and we didn't have the Play While Charging setting in that prototype. We ordered a larger battery just to see how much longer it would extend play time and once we test it we will decide whether we go with the bigger battery.
 
I can already see my first mod, building a battery bank for a 12 hour run time :)

Probably a silly question, will there be any issues shipping the battery's overseas?    Weight may be if they are SLA.
 
mcandmar said:
I can already see my first mod, building a battery bank for a 12 hour run time :)

Probably a silly question, will there be any issues shipping the battery's overseas?    Weight may be if they are SLA.
We will very likely have a position on the power switch that will allow enough charging current in to both run the DAC and keep the battery topped off, as well as a dedicated listening position where it is battery only. 

Thankfully either battery that we are looking at falls into a class that flies under the radar in terms of shipping regulations.  Though the batteries themselves do weigh a bit, that weight isn't drastically different than something like one of our smaller power transformers. 


 
Dan,

With my back I can't sit for 4.5 hours even in the La-Z-Boy.  I wonder if many can. 

If you have a charge while running position on the switch you are good to go for all the young guys.
 
I talked to the board house today, the delay WAS getting the oscillators programmed, they have received them now and the boards are being assembled, they will ship next week!

I still have to write some FPGA code to get them up and running before I send to Doc. It shouldn't be much, this is mostly just bug fixes from the last one. The only real differences are the auxiliary port and the display, so I have to get those working.

John S.

 
Could batteries be bought locally to save the hassle of shipping?

How about a two battery system? One plays while the other charges.
 
RPMac said:
Could batteries be bought locally to save the hassle of shipping?

How about a two battery system? One plays while the other charges.

I'm not sure what the hassle is.  These are only 3-4 lbs. 

We do not plan to leave sufficient room under the chassis for a second battery. 
 
My experience is that most of these specialty SLA batteries have to be bought from specialty distributors anyway, so one way or another you're likely to have to pay for shipping.

-- Jim
 
A lot of my Ham Radio buddies have converted from SLA to LIPO batteries. They are smaller and lighter in size for equal or larger capacity. Not sure about the cost but I believe the LIPO's cost a little more.
 
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