Speaker Hook-up Wire

That would be Julian Hirsch's lab.
      Ah yes, JH land, where everything is delightful.
  Eric(bra),  Get it out man. Mom raised us better than that, 'everything makes a difference' stuff. Right down to the dust on the cabinet? Cut the cord, draw the line, imagine whirled peas,  but don't forget reality....we're a bunch of old guys....with great wisdom and burnt ears. Experience is what you got when there is nothing left. Yet, I STILL LOVE THE HOBBY. YES, IDO
 
So now you admit to being twin sons of different mothers?

Julian Hirsch never met a piece of electronics he didn't like even if the tests proved it to be a POS.  On the other hand he swore that all amplifiers sounded alike.  I say that most all of them amplify, that is similar.
 
Well, more like identical strangers, born on the same day, in the same room, but different mothers, possibly in different dimensions.

  JH never met Johnzer speakers...
 
Since it came up a couple of times in the thread, I've been thinking a bit about barbed wire as speaker cable and would there be any benefit to using it.

Most modern barbed wire appears to be a twisted pair of uninsulated steel with barbs made of the same steel wrapped around it at intervals.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbed_wire

Steel is usually considered a no no for audio but has anybody actually tried listening to it? Of course the resistance of steel is much higher than copper but for short distances, the actual difference is small. Using a larger wire gauge for the steel would obviously lessen the difference in resistance.

Obviously the steel wire would need to be insulated but insulated steel is available.

I am open to the idea that a copper cable would sound different to a steel cable, but in a blind test would I say the copper was better?

And finally, the barbs which appear to be a short wire wrapped around the main wire at intervals. There is a school of thought that says that your speaker cables should be raised above the floor. Barbed wire would do this for you. I don't know what the distance is supposed to be but if you built your own cable, you could  create bigger barbs than usual.

And of course, since the barbs are sharp, any badness coming from your amplifier to your speakers will ooze out at the sharp points leaving you with the best sounding speaker cables ever!!

I'll have to make a pair and take them to our Bottleneck meeting later this year to try them out. I think it will be held in Sterling VA.

ray
 
Not too surprisingly, I found what appears to be steel wire in an S400 Threshold amp. Maybe they were trying out that  theory.  I have wanted to use something evil to keep people away from my fragile speaker cones! They are like magnets to the curious. Speakers wrapped in barbed wire( being used as speaker cable, why hasn't Coconut Audio thought of this?), hmmmm.
 
Steve and I have started to set up our next meet on the last weekend of October and we have decided it will focus on diy speaker cables.

I will start another thread to discuss how we will do this but my initial thoughts are that each of us who brings cables will bring two pair of cables. They will need to be exactly the same except for one parameter.

For example, same copper, same gauge, same topology, same length, different insulation. We would then do a blind test to see if we can hear a difference.

Of course I will be bring the barbed wire version.

ray
 
Steel wool speaker wire,  no, no Copper wool speaker wire. Man, I got ideas not proven to be bad until tried. Our assumptions often trumph our progress.
Speaker wire can be quite honest if simply made. I was amazed how well the flat braided RS speaker wire sounded.
 
RayP said:
Since it came up a couple of times in the thread, I've been thinking a bit about barbed wire as speaker cable and would there be any benefit to using it.  .  .  .

ray

I can see two advantages of this.  

1) a very large friend of mine feels the need to step over my amps which are between the speakers.  It would deter him as I have never been able to do.

2) the two new kittens would stop chewing on my speaker wire.

See my listening room here:

http://www.bottlehead.com/smf/index.php/topic,1251.0.html

I miss those loafers, they were comfortable!
 
I was thinking of trying some .750 or 1" fused disk, twisted.  May need to clamp it to an airplane propellar to get it twisted though.   I wonder if General Cable still makes the stuff.  Mostly air dielectric, should work well for interconnects, maybe speaker too   ;D  
 
Hey Grainger, I have a fused disc (along with some titanium to go with it) myself.   The nightmare that sums up that 2 year ordeal is probably why I spell everything "disc" related with a C instead of a K regardless of which is correct.   I think the cable was actually Fused Disk as opposed to Disc.  Ive corrected that above.   Beyond that ... disk or disc ... who knows.  ???
 
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