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Orca listening this afternoon.  I'm cleaning LPs, listening to CDs.  The last cut on John Renbourn's Ship Of Fools, Travellers' Prayer, is an acapella song.  I had to stop cleaning and sit in front of the listening chair (the dog was sleeping in it) and listen.  It is amazing on the Orcas.
 
Hey Grainger; Since obtaining a VPI classic and a BPS Evo lll cartridge, I have listened to my copies of Renbourne's "Lady & the Unicorn" and "Sir John Alot" albums and couldn't agree more with your experience. Something alive about these Transatlantic Records cuts, would love to find some more, now that I am listening to vinyl again via the Orcas+subs on BH gear.

Cheers, Hank in Eugene OR
 
I played those this week while cleaning LPs.  I didn't have them on CD and just bought them, arrived this week.  I have Transatlantic LPs of both, of course from the 70s when I started my collection of British Folk-Rock.
 
Hi everyone,

We're in the midst of a large production run in caramel bamboo and we have 2 sets of Orcas and Dungeness that are unspoken for and in stock. Clark and I decided to extend the sale that precipitated this production to these 2 remaining sets.

Typically, the wait time can be 4-8 weeks for a complete Orca/Dungeness system, but these setups are set to ship out by November 8th, and we're offering them at 10% off.

Price includes:

1 Pair of Caramel Orca Fullrange
1 Piece Caramel Dungeness Subwoofer

Clark also decided to throw in a set of 9-feet complimentary speaker cable at the last minute to sweeten the deal ; )

Contact us if you're interested. We'd love to give these setups a home, and I know we say this every time, but...this is our nicest woodwork to date. Really, it is!

Hope all you locals are enjoying this beautiful Fall weather.

Molly
 

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I've gotten lazy since purchasing the Orcas.  They make CDs sound really good so I play fewer LPs. 

Today I am listening to Dire Straits, On Every Street.  I know this album well.  It sounds better than ever today. 

My thanks to Clark and Molly for expanding my enjoyment of my music!

There was an interruption in my listening.  The soundstage is exceptional.  Knopfler's  guitar playing is exceptional.  It is mystic!  This album is exceptionally well recorded.

Album name corrected.
 
Grainger49 said:
Today I am listening to Dire Straits, On Every Corner.  I know this album well.  It sounds better than ever today. 

Apparently you don't know it as well as you thought. The album is named, "On Every Street."  ;)
 
First, I received the shipping notice for my Dungeness subs today.  It might have come last night but I opened the email this morning.  I'm excited to say the least!  I'll do some room rearranging today.

You are right, I wasn't looking and just remembering.  Or in this case misremembering.
 
Oh, CRAP!  I just realized I need to make a trip to Home Depot and buy a triple box and another Hospital outlet to power the Dungeness Subs. 

I have more things to plug in than the P300 can supply (4 max) so I expanded by making a short cord with 4 outlets at the end.  Now I need 6 outlets.  I currently run at 170W maximum.  I'm good to 300W.
 
FedEx, my least favorite carrier, didn't pick up the Dungeness subs till Tuesday this week.  They were ready Thursday night last week.  I would have expected a Friday pick up.

So they estimate delivery on Saturday.  That is, if they can find my house.  The have mis-delivered more packages than correctly delivered in the last 7 years.  They arrived in Nashville, 3 hours away, at 5:00 AM today.

Yesterday I went to HD and got some wood putty to plug the holes where the Orcas were screwed to the stands.  I intend to lay them on their side.  The putty that nearest matched them was Honey Oak.  Funny, they are Caramel but a light Caramel.

Eagerly awaiting! ! !
 
The Dungeness subs arrived about 4:00 PM this afternoon.  Unpacking them and getting them onto the stands and wired took an hour.  My brother called asking about Thanksgiving so that ate up some time.

They are quick.  I got the settings wrong first off, I didn't see that there was a 9, 10 and 11 o'clock hash mark.  So everything was too bassy at first.  Duh!  Wrong setting!

I played 40 Days by The Wailin' Jennys then The Heartbeat of Japan, the Kodo Taiko drums.

The detail in the bass is much improved over the Boston Acoustics sub.  My brief listening says, "Fast, Detailed, Well Integrated."

I'm cleaning the full downstairs of the house after 3 days of demo, grinding, sanding and screwing the sub floor down (as it should have been done when the house was built).

More later, less sooner!
 
debk said:
How does the Dungeness compare to the older Blumenstein Orca sub?

Deb


I answered this question for Deb over email, but imagining that others might have similar questions, I thought I'd relay my response to the forum:

The Dungeness Sub could be considered a decent upgrade to the Orca sub. It integrates even better sonically and goes lower, and is smaller and less expensive.  It took a lot of design work to get all these initiatives covered, but it really came together on this subwoofer model.

And for those interested in developments on our Feastrex-based speaker, the Uni, we have a pair of the new Alpha series drivers in the prototype cabinets--as before, available for demonstration.

It might be a crime to pair the Uni with a Sub, from our shop or otherwise, but of course we'll be playing around with every aspect of these drivers, including with subs, over time. They make unbelievable bass, into what sounds like the low thirties, even off the SR 45's.  Yes, they are ~10k/pr, but they are an extreme value at that price, even.  Feastrex has taken their drivers to a whole new level with their whizzerless Alpha series as evidenced by the fact that the pair I just received (to fill an order), which has been breaking in for 3 days solid has transformed into probably the best fullrange driver experience I've ever had in my own home, overall, in only 75 hours of break in time (stateside, probably that many hours logged in Japan as well).  They are also extremely competitive considering the upward trend of prices for high end fullrange designs.  They are also unconventionally small and unassuming.  They punch way above their weight, with such finesse and calm it is just baffling.

I know that I haven't given anything but qualifications to their performance here, and over time I'll post measurements once the drivers are broken in enough to take them. In the meantime, if anybody doubts these assessments I challenge you to come by and hear them and leave without a huge grin on your face.

Cheers!

Clark
 

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I realize I didn't post about why I was talking about Feastrexes and Subs yesterday. 

Over the years, I've fielded many questions about the 5" feastrex drivers and how well they would mate with subs. 

For instance, would the Dungeness do well if mated with the Feastrexes? 

It wouldn't be necessary as the Dungeness only has frequency overlap with the 5" Feastrexes in the Uni cabinets, both going down solidly to just under 40 hz or so.  They also have almost the same diameter driver, so it just wouldn't have much to offer in terms of additional bass.

The Feastrexes are extremely fast and plentiful on their own in the bass dept. and can be elusive and tough to keep up with with "any old sub."

However, I do think its very much possible to get a good pairing between a Feastrex and sub, as evidenced by a quick "plug in" of the woofer bank at Doc B's place the last time I brought them over for listening, which was pretty encouraging in terms of performance.  Doc had one of the nicest sounding tube crossovers I've heard running the system.  It think that this piece of hardware made all the difference that day and I'm pretty stoked to go hear it again.

Why woof?

The reason to use a woofer with the 5"ers would be to get far greater power handling and SPL's if that happens to be the taste of the listener.  The ear's own EQ changes as volume increases, and the need for low bass to be louder than the rest of the mix increases as average listening levels top ~95db or so (to me) in order to be perceived as "flat" to the ear.  This can be challenging for any 5" driver to keep up with above 10+ watts when its already making its own 32 hz (and few millimeters of confident, yet ultimately limited, excursion).

Now for me, personally, it is purist fullrange all the way with these drivers because I like nearfield and midfield listening with most speakers, especially the 5"ers.  One SET, one voice coil.  "Uni" is partly an homage the concept of "unite," "unification," both in terms of the sound of these drivers, and the strength of the design team that is behind them in Japan, and also over here in the US as PJ, PB, and Dan have all helped us immensely in the rekindling of this project. 

The Feastrexes in our new cabinets are so coherent, and they make so much good bass when run full range in most listening environments that most people could rest assured that they'll more likely than not make more than enough excellent bass from even a few watts. 

However, a hidden capability of these drivers that few people have ever really been exposed to is that they can make absolutely crazy SPL'S without any compression if the low frequencies are sent somewhere else.  Their magic is still there as tweeters/midrange/low mid wide rangers. 

Another cool feature of all field coil drivers is that you can vary the voltage slightly (+ or - 10%) in order to tune the drivers to a specific sound system.  The high frequency presentation changes slightly in addition to bass character ("lean," "balanced," or "plump"), and this adjustment can prove to be a tremendous asset to be able to compensate for a slightly rolled off phono cartridge or to alternatively take the edge off of an un-optimized digital system. 

The highs of the driver are slowly rolled off above 5k and this is a trait that is inherent to the sound of the drivers (like the Orcas, but there is a greater rolloff on these Feastrexes because they are intended for higher volume playback where the ear becomes more sensitive to high frequencies.)

I personally find the rolloff to be well executed.  A breath of fresh air.  Others who have experience with vintage drivers like the Altec 755A and E know that there is a seductiveness to this kind of sonic presentation if its done well.  If the highs that are there are accurate enough, the ear still seems to be able to prioritize them enough psycologically that they are most certainly "heard."  And while the roll off would appear to be pretty dramatic, the highs and even uppermost highs are paradoxically (to what these measurements would suggest) totally audible to my and others' ears as many things in the mix do definitely "shimmer" but they never "bite."  There is an uncanny ease and accuracy of presentation that these drivers have at all frequencies.  They "Uni-te" the music.

However, if one wanted to add a tweeter to the mix it would be very easy to do.

One could dial back the field coil voltage a bit to bring the efficiency more in line with a 92-93 db tweeter, which also softens the highs in a pleasant way to get a pre-rolloff before a crossover comes into effect, for instance.  Alternatively, one could turn the voltage up even beyond 10% to get the rising frequency response of typical fullrange drivers, up even more and they make excellent tweeters! (but be careful to not go too crazy as the drivers get hot (and it's eventually impractical))

With exotic fullrange drivers like this, it can be initially tough to get used to the idea of their being malleable on a fundamental level but still with good, reliable results.  In many senses, the sole fact that you've paid way more than normal for a set of fullrange drivers (not considering the cabinets), means you've probably gotten more capabilities than you might have thought.

Just like the Orcas, just like the design philosophy of Bottlehead amps, we are actually pretty open minded about how people use our speakers in the real world, so long as we are giving the vast majority of folks something that works extremely well as a simple "plug and play" pair of speakers that have an inherently good frequency response with SET's all the way down to any old amp you've got lying around. 

So while for Molly and I, the 5" Feastrex in a "single driver" configuration with the beepre and paramounts is our "mega system" in the realm of completeness of resolution and holography and chest pounding, "goes through you" sort of bass presence and clarity off of 2-10 watts per channel. 

But as with any sound system, even one employing 4-15" woofers (which we also have in our listening room!), there will eventually be limitations in bass power handling.  The limitations inherent to the purist's single driver approach are ones that I am personally OK with for my own listening - just like the power limitation in the much less expensive, and much less loud, Orca fullrange.

Molly and I personally prefer long term low to medium volume listening to be a completely engaging yet relaxed sound especially in the high frequencies.  Now - I'm not talking about "slippers and cigar" kind of backgroundey loungey musak boringness.  Whether I'm sitting at the edge of my seat or bleary eyed at midnight sinking into the couch, I just want all the detail and none of the "edge."  These are speakers for musical study and/or deep enjoyment or deep healing without any listening fatigue.  We've built the heart of our business around these kinds of speakers and customers because we feel that this is a market sector that, traditionally, has not been served very well by the majority of modern speaker offerings. 

To Molly and I, really good HiFi creates this needed "safe space" for thoughts to unfold, profound or casual, to listen actively to the music and to give musicians fewer communication barriers with their audiences.  Or, more humbly, to just make watching movies and TV a more enjoyable experience. 

Just like the speakers themselves are meant to be simple, transparent, and calmly go about the business of projecting their sound, it's our goal as a business to be transparent and give our all as dedicated woodworkers/manufacturers bringing our best to the production processes that are necessary to achieve this level of quality and control.  It all goes hand in hand.

Cheers,

Clark
 
Listening a bit more over the weekend I am starting to think that I'd like to play with some HF reinforcement with the Feastrex Alphas.  While I know that my own taste is for pretty mellow highs, I can already tell that most folks, especially those in the age demographic to be able to afford the Unis are going to want some sort of high frequency reinforcement to these drivers.  When you've been a music appreciator your whole life you tend to need a little extra high frequency information up top and there ain't a damn thing wrong about that it will probably happen to me some day too!  And our designs simply must serve the tastes of the appreciator, so its with no hesitation that I'll begin experimentations on this.  Perhaps I'll end up with something as mellow as the Fix or perhaps something else entirely.  It will be a challenge, like everything, but totally worth the effort once we nail it.  Luckily, I happen to have a brand new pair of Fostex T900A's (the big boys) to play with for a few days before I'll be installing them into the Cain and Cain Double Horn BEN ES as well in the next week.  If memory serves, these should sound a whole lot better than my old T90A-EX tweeters of yore.  Will report back soon on the preliminary results.

Best,

Clark
 
The t500a mkii are way better than the 900. The only tweeters that are better sounding to me are my plasma tweeters from Doc but those have spl limitations. Would be great with the feastrexes. I'll try them ind day with the WE.
 
Xavier, totally agree with you about the T500A MK II.  Its probably one of the only horn tweeters that I can really get behind (that's not Goto or ALE!)  And the price is pretty decent considering the massive amount of brass and precision machining (and, of course, the sound for the dollar). 

I have heard some ribbon tweeters at Paul B's place while we were monkeying around with the Mark Audios and those sounded very good as well.

It will be cool to hear about your results with the WE's!

 
Clark,

Did you find the Mark Audios to be too hot in the treble to fit into the "Blumenstein house sound"?  Just curious what the drawbacks were sonically with the Alair drivers and why not use some of Fostex's larger full range drivers?
 
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