Downhome Upstate
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madbrayniak said:
Exactly! And, that meditation on music can be done without spending huge sums. Enjoy your journey.
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Exactly! And, that meditation on music can be done without spending huge sums. Enjoy your journey.
madbrayniak
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YEP!
I don't get how some people seem to live life in the 100 mile per hour lane. I was doing that for a bit when I first got out of college but I soon realized that I couldn't handle it.
So for the last year or a bit longer my wife and I have been trying to learn how to live a simpler life. We have been getting rid of alot of pointless junk. Learning to enjoy not having the TV on. Eating better meals(not necessarily healthier ones, it shows... :-\ )
And we have been pushing away technology in many ways. Being "connected" seems to make you busier all the time! Heck, my other hobby is building computers and I say that!
We are still working on "purging" our lives too. Trying to own less as the more you own the messier the house tends to stay. Next step will be to downsize the house entirely. We love to travel so we would rather have a small house and be able to invest and retire younger and travel the world....
So I pretty much KNOW I will enjoy LP records. Cause it seems to just fit with me and my life style. Just need to get into it.
I don't get how some people seem to live life in the 100 mile per hour lane. I was doing that for a bit when I first got out of college but I soon realized that I couldn't handle it.
So for the last year or a bit longer my wife and I have been trying to learn how to live a simpler life. We have been getting rid of alot of pointless junk. Learning to enjoy not having the TV on. Eating better meals(not necessarily healthier ones, it shows... :-\ )
And we have been pushing away technology in many ways. Being "connected" seems to make you busier all the time! Heck, my other hobby is building computers and I say that!
We are still working on "purging" our lives too. Trying to own less as the more you own the messier the house tends to stay. Next step will be to downsize the house entirely. We love to travel so we would rather have a small house and be able to invest and retire younger and travel the world....
So I pretty much KNOW I will enjoy LP records. Cause it seems to just fit with me and my life style. Just need to get into it.
Chris
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Remember Will Ferrell in a movie where he was booted out of his house by his wife and was living in the front yard with all of his stuff and the thing most precious to him was his TT and vinyl.. And he hooked it up in the yard and was playing it... I have to say, I totally understood him...haha Maybe, we all do...
madbrayniak
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I read somewhere on here that some of you find the DL-103 to sound good but a little dull.
I was wondering if anyone had heard some of these modified DL-103 like the one from Zu Audio? Supposedly the few changes that they have made to it have yeilded some vast improvements in the treble and bass range in particular.
I was wondering if anyone had heard some of these modified DL-103 like the one from Zu Audio? Supposedly the few changes that they have made to it have yeilded some vast improvements in the treble and bass range in particular.
Downhome Upstate
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No (I use a DL-103R, which sounds great to my ears and which cost about USD $279 from Comet Supply, delivered), but I've got a preliminary question for you: Have you looked at any information about optimizing the relationship between cartridge compliance on one hand, and the effective mass of your tonearm on the other?
If not, try going to Vinyl Engine. You can use one of their tools to see if a given cartridge is a good match with whatever tonearm you plan to use (or, the tonearm that already comes with the 'table you're buying).
Try this: http://www.vinylengine.com/cartridge_resonance_evaluator.php
Just find and enter the effective mass of the tonearm in the small 'window' and hit "Submit". The tool will take you to a color-coded chart that helps identify good matches between (i) cartridge weight and compliance and (ii) a given tonearm.
If I've got this straight, the idea is to keep the resonant frequency of the combined arm and cartridge system low enough so that it doesn't materially add to the energy imparted to the stylus and cantilever (and thus the cartridge motor) by the record grooves. The chart is not the gospel (there is way more to tonearm design than effective mass, and some combinations that the chart doesn't indicate as optimum sound good anyway), but it's a good cheat sheet for those of us who are not engineers.
If not, try going to Vinyl Engine. You can use one of their tools to see if a given cartridge is a good match with whatever tonearm you plan to use (or, the tonearm that already comes with the 'table you're buying).
Try this: http://www.vinylengine.com/cartridge_resonance_evaluator.php
Just find and enter the effective mass of the tonearm in the small 'window' and hit "Submit". The tool will take you to a color-coded chart that helps identify good matches between (i) cartridge weight and compliance and (ii) a given tonearm.
If I've got this straight, the idea is to keep the resonant frequency of the combined arm and cartridge system low enough so that it doesn't materially add to the energy imparted to the stylus and cantilever (and thus the cartridge motor) by the record grooves. The chart is not the gospel (there is way more to tonearm design than effective mass, and some combinations that the chart doesn't indicate as optimum sound good anyway), but it's a good cheat sheet for those of us who are not engineers.
madbrayniak
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I am not familiar with that chart that you linked me to but I am familiar with the idea that with a light compliance cart you need a heavy arm and vice versa.
That chart though looks like it would be a great think to bookmark!
That chart though looks like it would be a great think to bookmark!
Getting into vinyl would not be a good way to live a simpler life, and going down the low output moving coil trail even less so. If you're all about convenience and space economy, a music server will really be a better way to go.madbrayniak said:
fullheadofnothing
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If the resonant frequency of a cartridge/tonearm system is below about 8 Hz, it will resonate when you play a warped record. If it is above about 12 Hz, it will resonate when you play a record with strong low audible frequencies. Either case will cause visible shaking of the cartridge and audible mis-tracking.
madbrayniak
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Caucasian Blackplate said:
Ok maybe "simpler" is not entirely the right word to use.
What I mean is enjoy the simpler things....trying to actually limit the amount/kind of technology....
I really dont know how to describe it with words right now. But sitting down, putting a record on, and losing yourself in music is simpler than sitting infront of the tv, with an ipad in your lap, looking at facebook, obsessing over what your "friends" are doing....
Taking time to just read a book instead of surf the internet.
Taking time to make nice dinners and enjoy cooking.
Do you get what I am trying to say?
madbrayniak said:
I am not really sure what you are trying to say to be honest, except that maybe you are trying to simplify your life. It reads as if you are trying to redirect your energies away from the "social/internet media" and spend more of your time doing activities that are not centered around such activities that are the result of one aspect of technology. Yes, reading a book over watching TV is a very good thing. But, I do like to watch a good HD movie with some great audio. Likewise, listening to good audio over a good system is a great way to calm the nerves and sooth the brain, and playing an instrument is a great way to expand ones' creative energies.
Personally, I avoid Facebook, etc., with a passion. I do love technology though and am awed by its evolution/growth. I see technology as being a tool to help us perform work more efficiently, thus giving us more time for leisure. With our leisure we can use technology to broaden our choices of relaxation and gain a greater understanding of the Universe, and hence ourselves. With tech we are privy to data/information that has previously have been unknown or impossible to replicate (fractals.) In the end, it is not the technology that is to blame but how we choose to use it.
Downhome Upstate
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"Simplicity is the state or quality of being simple. It usually relates to the burden which a thing puts on someone trying to explain or understand it. Something which is easy to understand or explain is simple, in contrast to something complicated. Alternatively, as Herbert A. Simon suggested, something is simple or complex depending on the way we choose to describe it... In some uses, simplicity can be used to imply beauty, purity, or clarity. Simplicity may also be used in a negative connotation to denote a deficit or insufficiency of nuance or complexity of a thing, relative to what is supposed to be required. (Emphasis added.)
The concept of simplicity has been related to in the field of epistemology. According to Occam's razor, all other things being equal, the simplest theory is the most likely to be true. In the context of human lifestyle, simplicity can denote freedom from hardship, effort or confusion. Specifically, it can refer to a simple living style. (Emphasis added.)
Simplicity is a theme in the Christian religion. According to St. Thomas Aquinas, God is infinitely simple. The Roman Catholic and Anglican religious orders of Franciscans also strive after simplicity. Members of the Religious Society of Friends (Quakers) practice the Testimony of Simplicity, which is the simplifying of one's life in order to focus on things that are most important and disregard or avoid things that are least important. (Emphasis added.)
In the philosophy of science, simplicity is a meta-scientific criterion by which to evaluate competing theories. In this field, a distinction is often made between two senses of simplicity: syntactic simplicity (the number and complexity of hypotheses), and ontological simplicity (the number and complexity of things postulated). These two aspects of simplicity are often referred to as elegance and parsimony respectively."
[Wikipedia article on simplicity - yeah, I know, its Wikipedia, and the post is accompanied by a request for improvement. But I like it anyway.]
Occam's Razor and all that. Gotta like the reference to elegance.
The concept of simplicity has been related to in the field of epistemology. According to Occam's razor, all other things being equal, the simplest theory is the most likely to be true. In the context of human lifestyle, simplicity can denote freedom from hardship, effort or confusion. Specifically, it can refer to a simple living style. (Emphasis added.)
Simplicity is a theme in the Christian religion. According to St. Thomas Aquinas, God is infinitely simple. The Roman Catholic and Anglican religious orders of Franciscans also strive after simplicity. Members of the Religious Society of Friends (Quakers) practice the Testimony of Simplicity, which is the simplifying of one's life in order to focus on things that are most important and disregard or avoid things that are least important. (Emphasis added.)
In the philosophy of science, simplicity is a meta-scientific criterion by which to evaluate competing theories. In this field, a distinction is often made between two senses of simplicity: syntactic simplicity (the number and complexity of hypotheses), and ontological simplicity (the number and complexity of things postulated). These two aspects of simplicity are often referred to as elegance and parsimony respectively."
[Wikipedia article on simplicity - yeah, I know, its Wikipedia, and the post is accompanied by a request for improvement. But I like it anyway.]
Occam's Razor and all that. Gotta like the reference to elegance.
madbrayniak
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Yoder,
You are kinda getting it. I really am not good with words...you know how they say opposites attract? Well, my wife is an aspiring writer...
I enjoy technology as well but I feel like there is TOO MUCH technology in my life away from work at times. I really enjoy movies and videogames and all of those past times.
However, I use facebook as an example because many have it on their computers, cell phones, tablets, etc. Instead of truely relaxing they are online working themselves up over other people's drama. I have enough drama in my life alone...i dont need anyone else's.
I want to use technology to make life easier, no harder and I feel many people that I know have lost that. I think that is part of the reason why I have such a fascination with audio, especially analog audio.
I am striving for a simpler life where I can go home and fully relax and forget about the troubles of my work.
I do plan to have a home server one day where I have movies and music stored digitally but I also want to have my vinyl records for when I want to sit down and just lose myself to the music. Just like I lose myself in books at times.
Downhome Upstate kinda hit on what I am going after with his Wiki-update, ironically I really started to look for a simpler life after I was baptized about 2 years ago now...
Another way I can explain this is that so often today people want more...just to have more. More house, more clothes, more junk....I want to live by my means. I want to live in a house that is big enough....not big....I want to have the money to invest and travel, I want to be able to retire young enough so I can still get around easily to travel....
I dont want to offend anyone with this post and if you are someone that enjoys living in a bigger house and have lots of toys that's great! I am not trying to say there is anything wrong with that, just that that is not the life that I want for myself. I'm personally too lazy to clean a big house myself and I'm too paranoid to let someone come inside and clean it for me...
You are kinda getting it. I really am not good with words...you know how they say opposites attract? Well, my wife is an aspiring writer...
I enjoy technology as well but I feel like there is TOO MUCH technology in my life away from work at times. I really enjoy movies and videogames and all of those past times.
However, I use facebook as an example because many have it on their computers, cell phones, tablets, etc. Instead of truely relaxing they are online working themselves up over other people's drama. I have enough drama in my life alone...i dont need anyone else's.
I want to use technology to make life easier, no harder and I feel many people that I know have lost that. I think that is part of the reason why I have such a fascination with audio, especially analog audio.
I am striving for a simpler life where I can go home and fully relax and forget about the troubles of my work.
I do plan to have a home server one day where I have movies and music stored digitally but I also want to have my vinyl records for when I want to sit down and just lose myself to the music. Just like I lose myself in books at times.
Downhome Upstate kinda hit on what I am going after with his Wiki-update, ironically I really started to look for a simpler life after I was baptized about 2 years ago now...
Another way I can explain this is that so often today people want more...just to have more. More house, more clothes, more junk....I want to live by my means. I want to live in a house that is big enough....not big....I want to have the money to invest and travel, I want to be able to retire young enough so I can still get around easily to travel....
I dont want to offend anyone with this post and if you are someone that enjoys living in a bigger house and have lots of toys that's great! I am not trying to say there is anything wrong with that, just that that is not the life that I want for myself. I'm personally too lazy to clean a big house myself and I'm too paranoid to let someone come inside and clean it for me...
