Lies, Or Not, That You Were Told About Vinyl:

[Grainger49]

Ok, so I just got this idea from Eric.  I was told that the stylus had such great pressure in pounds per square inch that the vinyl would liquify.  Addendum, I was also told that the lamp black, which is what makes records black, would liquify.  But that it was there as a lubricant.

Now you give us your favorite bit of folklore about vinyl.

 

[Aural Robert]

I remember in the 70's a story that if you played Black Sabbath backwards, something evil would happen, or something. I don't remember the result exactly, and a quick net search only says you will want to kill yourself. Which of course is pretty evil I'd say.

Aural Robert.
... All day long I think of things ...

 

[Chris]

Haha G.. Who the heck were you hanging around with?

 

[Grainger49]

I believe I heard that from someone named Chris.  No, I'm not yanking your crank, he was VP of a shop I was working at in the 70s.

 

[debk]

Lamp black is basically just carbon and is used as a pigment in many application. I can't see it melting. I have used it as an opacifying agent in some of my rocket propellant formulas.

Debra

 

[adamct]

Lamp black is basically just carbon and is used as a pigment in many application. I can't see it melting. I have used it as an opacifying agent in some of my rocket propellant formulas.

Debra

OK, I'll bite. Why does rocket propellant need to be opaque?

Also, out of curiosity, I assume that building rockets is a hobby?

Best regards,
Adam

 

[Downhome Upstate]

How about that it would be affordable?

 

[debk]

Lamp black is basically just carbon and is used as a pigment in many application. I can't see it melting. I have used it as an opacifying agent in some of my rocket propellant formulas.

Debra

OK, I'll bite. Why does rocket propellant need to be opaque?

Also, out of curiosity, I assume that building rockets is a hobby?

Best regards,
Adam

The opacifier inhibits radiative heat transfer to the non burning propellant and prevents it from igniting prematurely.

Yes, I build and and fly high power rockets

Debra

 

[adamct]

Interesting, thanks.

I guess you attempt to achieve new heights in all of your hobbies!

 

[Doc B]

IIRC it serves the same purpose in smokeless gun powder. I guess that is part of the reason black powder goes BOOM!, and smokeless goes FFFFFT! when you throw a match on a little pile of it. Hey Deb, do they use smokeless gunpowder in rockets?

Getting further off topic - have you ever read about the experiments done at, I think, General Dynamics back in the 60s where they launched vehicles with a stream of high explosive charges dropped out the bottom, the shockwaves of which pushed on the dish shaped bottom of the vehicle to lift it? It was a small scale experiment to test Freeman Dyson's proposal of doing the same with a larger vehicle, using small nuclear bombs. They were doing these launches right across the water from some pretty fancy houses in LA. Ah, for the good old days when you could test high explosives and experimental aircraft right in your own neighborhood...

 

[debk]

I use black powder for the recovery charges.  The propellant is ammonium perchlorate composite propellant.  Basically the same thing used in the solid boosters on the shuttle.

I remember the proposal to use the nukes to push a rocket!

Deb

 

[Grainger49]

Lamp black is basically just carbon and is used as a pigment in many applications.  .  .  . 

I knew it was a lie about vinyl, thus I included it in a Vinyl Lies thread.

Come on, you guys were told all sorts of lies.

"Alcohol will make LPs brittle and they will wear much, much faster."  Lie but told often

 

[Mike B]

How about the biggest lie of all;

CD's sound better than LP's

That one fooled lots of people -

 

[Chris]

Cds are the PERFECT sound forever BS...  and... "I believe I heard that from someone named Chris".... Well, that explains it perfectly!!! .... and yes Doc, I remember reading in the 1970s about a spaceship being propelled using hydrogen bombs... Being a kid, yet an inquisitive kid, I was trying to picture a ship with multiple hydrogen bombs detonating to achieve the speed of light.... article in popular science or popular mechanics, one of the 2, my Dad had both subscriptions... I also read in the mid 70s about a company in Zurich who was producing a car the ran on hydrogen... 

 

[4krow]

I know that this will sound wrong, BUT the first CD player that I owned was sony CD-1. It sounded as good as albums, as long as they were transferred decently. It wasn't until I bought a Nakamichi CD player OMS-3A, that I started regretting moving out of vinyl.
  The best lie about vinyl was that you had to spend BIG coin to get good sound. I had maybe $700 invested in a table and cartridge, and wish that I could ever do as well again.

 

[rif]

A lie of omission: no one told me I had to purchase a record cleaning system.

 

[Grainger49]

You don't if you live in a clean room and buy only new LPs (that's a lie, new LPs are dirty).

 

[Chris]

Dammit G, there you go lyin' again.... haha

 

[caffeinator]

I think I'll have to give a plus one to the urban legend about backwards recorded messages on (at the time) LP's.

When I was in college, a group came to campus to speak on the subject, purporting to have no agenda other than to expose something inexplicable and suspicious, but in the presentation, their Christian affiliation became apparent - not that there's anything wrong with that - it just struck me as incongruous that a group who advertised themselves as exposing some Machiavellian recording-company scheme would themselves be shying from full disclosure in the process.

They had made posters advertising the event using a popular image of Jim Morrison (the one from the book jacket of "No One Here Gets Out Alive").  We took down all the posters we could find, and made a giant Jim Morrison collage in our dorm.  I'm not sure, but if you looked at it backwards, I think it read "evila tuO steG ereH enO oN" - clearly including the word evil, more or less - so I guess they may have been right after all.

 

[4krow]

I just gotta comment about subliminal messages in this post. Lets think about what is being done by some salesman/vendor who 'suggests' but not directly, any number of things that we might doubt about something that we don't fully understand. Just to make sure that everything is going to work swimmingly, here comes a little gadget that fixes a problem not thought of before. It can be true or not, that is not so important as making your audiophile assured that a ghostly little demon has been put back in the box.

  On another subliminal note, I recently purchased a 'sleep machine'. It makes soothing noise that may help you clear your mind and go to sleep. HA! not me, I ANALIZE the sound (subliminally of course), and start to hear what sounds like voices just below the noise. Worse yet, with a little imagination, I hear "guilty, guilty" just under the noise. "Hello, is Dr. Mindblone there please? Yes, I need an emergency appointment." Baby steps, baby steps.